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November 25, 2007

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Pete

I used to have a lot of time for Rowan Williams. Now, though, it seems as though every time he opens his mouth, he makes a fool of himself. In March, he said that the Anglican church should pay reparations for its role in the British Empire's slave trade. Now he says the British Empire wasn't so bad. (I suppose it enriched his church, at least.)

In October, Williams criticised atheists in a speech that was reported in this article:

[Williams] said Darwinism is hailed as a "better explanation" of the world than religion, and that such writers often say: "Why doesn't religion retire graciously from the fold and say so?"

But Williams said religion cannot be accurately viewed in terms of science, as hypotheses, because belief in God comes with no conditions attached. For believers, he said, God is real and existed before the universe did.

As an agnostic, I wouldn't make a judgement about the existence of God, but I do object to arguments that don't make sense. All Williams seems to be saying is, "God exists because believers [think they] know God exists."

At the anniversary service for the Queen and Prince Philip, Williams implied—apparently unintentionally—that prayer doesn't work.

I would have expected better from someone who used to be an academic theologian.

Pete

I used to have a lot of time for Rowan Williams. Now, though, it seems as though every time he opens his mouth, he makes a fool of himself. In March, he said that the Anglican church should pay reparations for its role in the British Empire's slave trade. Now he says the British Empire wasn't so bad. (I suppose it enriched his church, at least.)

In October, Williams criticised atheists in a speech that was reported in this article:

[Williams] said Darwinism is hailed as a "better explanation" of the world than religion, and that such writers often say: "Why doesn't religion retire graciously from the fold and say so?"

But Williams said religion cannot be accurately viewed in terms of science, as hypotheses, because belief in God comes with no conditions attached. For believers, he said, God is real and existed before the universe did.

As an agnostic, I wouldn't make a judgement about the existence of God, but I do object to arguments that don't make sense. All Williams seems to be saying is, "God exists because believers [think they] know God exists."

At the anniversary service for the Queen and Prince Philip, Williams implied—apparently unintentionally—that prayer doesn't work.

I would have expected better from someone who used to be an academic theologian.

waterdragon52

Irene:

At least some Christian "Arabs" in Israel/Palestine are the descendents of Jews who converted to Christianity, and not descendents of the people who originated in the Arabian peninsula, so I find it really interesting that such persons prefer to identify as Arabs and accept being so identified by others. I say this as I know some Maronites whose family left Haifa sometime in the 1930s/40s. They proudly note that their ancestors are mentioned in the O.T. for having signed the covenant, but think of themselves as Arabs, because, of course, they spoke Arabic, the language of their conquerors.

SnoopyTheGoon

Rowan Williams will be Rowan Williams, unfortunately. Shouldn't prevent you from accepting that invitation anyway, methinks.

And you know what - I could be mistaken, but Rowan Williams kind of reflect what many Brits think. At least this is my lingering suspicion...

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